Name: Reality Capture LIVE: How to Transform Preconstruction Planning
Uploaded: 2025-03-06T19:31:04.363Z
Duration: 1 h 11 min 48 s
Description: Reality Capture LIVE: How to Transform Preconstruction Planning

Transcript for "Reality Capture LIVE: How to Transform Preconstruction Planning": It's fine. Alrighty. Well, welcome in everybody. Happy Thursday from wherever you may be tuning in from. We are very excited you are here and, look forward to just a great, time talking about some pre construction topics. This is gonna be a ton of fun and, just thank you for tuning in. We have a stacked lineup here. This is just super exciting to see, the names, the faces, the teams, the companies of, what we're gonna be talking about here. So appreciate you tuning in, drop us a note in the chat where you might be, watching from and, look forward to answering questions over there. If this is your first time into a RealityCapture Live, we try to keep it pretty, pretty fun around here, pretty low key. If you haven't seen some of these before, would encourage you to go over to our insider platform where, we have a lot of these, conversations and topics, on there. So just Google DroneDeploy insider, and you'll see this one there after this event. If you happen to be tuning in, in the recording side of it or if just something stood out and you wanted to, share with a friend or a coworker, go ahead and hop over there as well. But, join the conversation. These are fun if you haven't been in this tool before. It's a really fun webinar platform that just allows us to throw in your screens and throw in your question, that you have pop up over there. So use the Q and A function over there in that top right hand corner. We'd love to hear questions as they come up. We're going to leave plenty of time on the back end, for you to, tune in and chat with us here as a part of it. So, here's some feedback coming in from someone here. Let me see if I can work to that. Here we go. Got that all squared away, but we're gonna dive right in here. So, wanna welcome my cohost, mister Javier, over on the, side of things. Javier, good to see you, man. It's good to be in one of these with you. Good to be. Yeah. That's a nice collaboration. Think we used all the analogies. You know, peanut butter and jam, peas and carrots, you know. cmBuilder and and DroneDeploy go go to go together really well. It's great to have a collaborative, session here with Create Group. Yeah. This is fun. I've just always appreciated your social posts, things you put out there. It's it's really fun to finally be in a meeting with you here, to kind of talk about it. So that's audio stuff that we're playing through here, just to kind of tap some stuff into that. But, let's see here if I can mute one of, one of us in here. There you go. Jody, I'll have you mute your mic if, I think that might be what it's from. So, but, yeah, Javier, great to see you, man. And it's gonna be fun. We're gonna have a lot of fun with this here, but we got a great panel of folks that are gonna be joining us. This is gonna be a ton of fun, some great companies, really bringing back some, old friends. Jody and I happened to intern together a long time ago, which is just cool to kinda reminisce on some of that. And, Wilson's been great, on the Juneau Construction team and really fun, to have PCL and Amir in here too. So, honestly, I feel kinda, you know, the Oscars were, this weekend and just feel like I'm kinda out of place with the the star studded lineups that that are here. So I appreciate you guys joining in, and we're gonna have a good time, talking through some of this stuff. So real quick, a little layout of what we're gonna be talking through. Really, Javier and I are gonna get out of the way to give our panel, the most time on the mic here. But, right tool, right job, this is all about pre con. So hopefully you're here and interested in learning about, what we're gonna talk on the pre con side. And then really from the experts, again, we got three really good examples and kind of, things we're gonna walk through from a workflow standpoint. And then we're gonna open up the convo for for you all to chime into and ask us some questions over there in the chat and Q and A. So, with that and Javier, we kind of talked about this at the top end, but, yeah, I do kind of like to think of, our tools as a little peanut butter, jelly, whatever analogy to, what else have you kind of heard on that front of, just how our kind of platforms work together along the way? Yeah. I mean, when you think about the ability to capture reality, you know, the existing conditions as the job site's changing over time, and then author on top of it, your logistics plans, your sequencing, temporary works, validating that your crane locations are gonna work, all that stuff with better data coming from the real world. And it's it's just it doesn't get better than that. Yeah. I think it's fun. We we jokingly aside, I kinda like to think here, I I like to think of it as a little bit of a LeBron James, d Wade, Aleut, maybe maybe a little too much, but, no. It is it is neat. I think what's cool to see over time is just how much, your guys' team is, taking a lot of feedback from us and our team, you know, giving you guys feedback too. And so it's cool to see kinda how much you guys have, been able to see value from really the plan meets reality. And I think that's what we're hopefully gonna kinda walk through and and talk through today. So, yeah, I see the note over there about, some audio kinda feedback. Appreciate that. I'm gonna see if that's coming from one of our panelists here. So, if you Wilson, Amir or Jody, I'm going to have you guys meet yourself maybe until we hop in there. See that fixed. I still hear some on my end too, so wouldn't be a webinar without some, audio sides of it. Let me see if I can check it. Well, Javier, is that coming from you? No. It looks like it might be there we go. Jody, was that your mic? I think that might have been, what we were playing with there, too. So cool. Everyone in the chat. Sound good? Yep. It looks like, that might have fixed it on my end. Love it. And we just love playing the GIF in the background. Cool. Thanks, Andrew, for that. But, just real quick, we want to go over, if you haven't heard about our tools, really quick rundown, DroneDeploy has quite a bit of functionality from, aerial and ground side, which you're going to hear about here in a second, through some of these, folks that are talking on our panel here. But really just at a high level, if you're familiar with the aerial side of it, that's where DroneDeploy kind of, cut its name. And, we acquired a tool, in a company called Structionsight, which brought us some really great ground components as well to this. And you'll see some of that as we kinda talk about this in the pre con side of things as well. And so, if you haven't kinda heard, our kind of pillars of what we kind of, fall to of, really where our product is going is really unified, automated, and intelligent. That really kind of breeds into the updates and where the direction of our platform is kind of going. And so hopefully you'll see kind of how these play out within, capturing both from the ground and the air and hopefully making informed decisions, off of these things and not just data, but given some intelligence to it. And we'll talk through a little bit of, how kind of things get automated for capture and bringing that into, these different platforms as well. So, if you haven't heard, we do kind of touch through the whole life cycle, as well of construction. Obviously, this topic is gonna be diving into, specifically the pre con side, but, we've all talked about how pre con is just a huge, kind of component of setting up the job to be successful. And so, we just felt like it was a really important thing to kind of highlight through this conversation, as we dip into other parts of the life cycle. So with that, Javier, I'm gonna have you share your screen and kinda talk through, if you haven't heard of cmBuilder, just kinda some of the the tools of what what it is that you guys do and where you, really add value to that preconstruction phase. Absolutely. I think if you stop sharing, it's not letting me share. There you go. Perfect. Let me see here. Screen. Alright. Let me know if you guys can see that. Got it. K. Let's go full screen here. So introduction to cmBuilder, what's it all about? It's a, we start launched the platform in September 2020. We launched it. No one came. The next day, got up the next day and just kept building. Fortunate enough now to have over 320 customers all around the world. A customer is a company, so we sell to companies and then we have unlimited users on top of that. Some of those customers are listed below. Over 10,000 projects have been simulated to date on the platform. We have a global customer base. I know this audience is from all over the world, so I wanted to highlight that. Of course, about 65% North American, but customers from Europe and Australia, New Zealand. And then we're really proud that we have over 50 educational institutions on the platform from all around the world as well. So, students are getting trained up on the platform and learning about construction planning, as part of their curriculum, and then they can go off into the into the wilderness and have a good idea of our platform. Next thing I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna show a couple quick examples. So the the beauty of RealityCapture is from, like, two d orthos, being able to overlay that inside cmBuilder directly on the web, bring in your reality capture, information, and then author on top of that. Right? Dragging and dropping demolition equipment, etcetera, to show, you know, things ready for ground up construction, etcetera, etcetera. So the idea of combining that reality capture workflow with, site logistics planning in three d and in four d is really powerful. This is a great example out in LA, you know, where they're bringing in, reality capture from the excavation phases and then planning on top of that inside cmBuilder is really nice. Right? So you can kinda visualize where you thought you're gonna be versus where you had, you know, where you actually are, and then just be able to pop it into two d mode and just author right on top of this. So if I wanna go into my tree and add, you know, zones, etcetera. Right? Boom. Boom. I could just draw on top of this reality capture data and then, you know, bring to life what you're trying to what you're trying to do. So you're trying to bring it like, okay. This is my loading zone, and I wanna drop in your trailers and resources and stuff all on top of that. It's really easy to do. So that's it. So, platform's all about ease of use and speed and and try to really, communicate better, to your clients. So I'll stop there, and I will pass the baton over to our talented, audience or talented, panelists and we can take it from there. Yeah. I love it. Before we get into that, we're just gonna highlight real quick, just from the pre con perspective. What's funny, Javier, what I've appreciated about your tool is, I think the, the tools that I come across now being on the tech side that, I appreciate the most of the ones I wish I had back when I was, in some of the panelists as roles and, situations of just like me, I've been so encouraged of how easy your tool is, how quick folks can, get up to speed about using it, especially in, I think, a big part of you guys, having users of all different backgrounds, like not just a tech, person's background using your platform has been super cool. So, yeah, I just appreciate you kind of a quick overview from the pre con side of it. You know, I think what's fun about kind of this peanut butter jelly, Aleut, you know, our two platforms kind of talking together is is really oftentimes I hear two really specific things in pre cons. Like, hey, perspective changes everything and data in a silo is just super, challenging, especially, in this phase of construction and or preconstruction. And and I think what we wanna kinda highlight in, our panelists today is really how those two things, really when using these platforms together, it can really meet, two of these challenges that Precon kind of, faces us with. And, you know, what's interesting about the siloed data part, you know, it's funny when we think about these tools and Precon, you know, just building the plan and how many people are a part of that and how much visualization just helps as a part of it. Man, I can't think of two better tools to really help communicate that plan of really the reality of what is going on on-site versus, what is being seen, from your guys' plan moving forward. So I hope that, as you guys kinda watch and and learn from our panelists that really these two challenges of, you know, perspective and and how do you really communicate that plan effectively rather than just putting it on a two d drawing that we all are probably familiar with, to also sharing this data with as many folks as possible can really help, just transform the way that you do preconstruction. And so, I'm gonna turn it over to our first, panelist here with Amir. Who's gonna walk us through, really just how they're using both ground data, aerial data in this pre con, part of it as well. And we're gonna dive right into it. So, Amir, I'm gonna stop sharing and give the floor to you, my friend. Awesome. Great. Thanks, Grant. K. Let me share my screen here. K. Can you see my screen? I can see it. Okay. Awesome. So I have to transfer to pre construction planning. I'm Amir, integrated construction technology manager at, PCL, and this is one of those AI images, that they created after two paragraphs of explaining. It's really turns out really good. So, who is PCL? PCL is their largest general contractor in Canada. We are in business for almost hundred twenty years, $10,000,000,000 in revenue, and we're servicing all 50 state, down in America as well as Australia, Hawaii, and Caribbean. So today, our agenda is, looking at the project and the key challenges that we have and how DroneDeploy ground and air give us some solution and context about our preconstruction planning. And at the end, showing how those data integrated with cmBuilder for logistic planning for as a 40 logistic planning and some key takeaway, that we had, for using those platform. So about the project intro, this is the project that I'm involved in the last, four months. It's a Burnaby Hospital in the British Columbia. So as you can see in the middle, that t shaped building need to be demolished, and the rest of the campus is active. So this is the building that built in 1950, and we are building a new one. The cost of the project is $1,700,000,000, and, the forecast completion is 02/1932 2032. And, the type of project is alliance, so it's really good that we sit, with the project team, with the clients, and the designers all around the same table. And, couple of challenges that, we need to address in this project was, we have some exterior existing condition. We have neighbors around the building, and we have some, electrical poles close to the excavation pit that we need to take care of those before we start the excavation. The second one, as I said, that, T building in the middle need to be demolished while the rest of the campus is active. So we have to, take into consideration that, how we're gonna demolish that, show it into the plan, some planning need to be done. And also at the end, interior condition that's, for the soft demo, we have to, take into consideration that this building built in 1950. So there are some hazmat consideration, environmental consideration need to be done, for pricing for soft demo that, some interior documentation needed. And, let's jump into seeing how DroneDeploy ground helped us. I mean, you're all familiar with the three sixty images and walk. This is that, t building that I just, showed to you. Since it's the active hospital, those all of those rooms are full of patients, different than the restricted department. So taking appointment with the facility management team and, going to those rooms is really hard. They need a couple of weeks of the notice in advance, and it's not just a regular walk of, preconditioning that, every team can go and walk. So only one or two people can go and walk in there. So it's really valuable for us to document those picture every time we walk in a specific zones and area so we can make it available for wider team. So they can see exactly what's going on inside the hospital and compare it with the model as as, one to one comparison with the, whatever architect developed and also see exactly what's going on inside the hospitals for pricing, for demo, if there is any hazmat or, environmental condition that they need to be considered. And the other challenge was, infection control. So these are the unique these are the iPAC unit that's, only one person can be standing in there and, popping up each ceiling tile take about twenty to thirty minutes. So the images above the ceiling is really valuable for us to take those panels, document those panels inside each, corridors that we are in. Again, to get the context, to get the see what's going on in there. These are really old buildings, so we need to have all the info required before we starting a demo and, for designers as well to design, plan, and, exactly see the existing condition. So these are all about the interior with the interior existing condition with DroneDeploy ground. Let's take a look at, DroneDeploy air in this project. So I was talking about the, neighbors that we have around the building and also, some electrical, poles that we have close to the excavation. So these are sort of panoramic pictures to give more context to the superintendents who are doing the planning and designers who are doing the excavation and ramp area. So these are the hydro poles that we need to, take into consideration. And after we fly for the panoramic pictures, we flew one more time for the survey flight, and, we overlay all the, geo scan data, everything that done by GPR scanning for all the underground services. So now we have a idea about the above the ground services that we have. We overlay it with the underground services, all the storm, utilities, electrical, to see what's going on exactly underside of the area that we are excavating. And then on top of those, we also overlay the PDFs from, architectural team that they are doing some schematic design to exactly see where is the location of that service road that we are doing the excavation. So all of those give us, context that's, what exactly we need to do. And then as a last step, so the combination of DroneDeploy air and ground. So this is one of the features that I really like. So you don't need to walk just on top of the drawing. You can just, do your walk or three sixty walk on top of the latest drone image that you have. So the background would be the latest condition or existing condition, and then you start walking on top of that. And then you get the idea of how DroneDeploy air and ground work and then see the latest condition and see what's the drop in there and where is the location of those poles. Sorry. So with all of those information that we had in hand and with all of those context we got, now it's time for the planning. So cmBuilder is the tool that we use to change and transform the way that we provide a planning rather than just a PDF. So I just wanna show you logistic video of cmBuilder of how we import the model directly from ACC and then, import a drone layout background, bringing all the train condition into cmBuilder and then start planning. So showing off our fences, showing to the how we're gonna tackle those hydro pool by moving them temporarily into the other side of excavation and, show it to the team, different team, different health authorities, electrical authorities that, this is our plan. This is what we're gonna do. This is the excavation areas. And as I showed you, so we have some, existing pipe and condition that we need to reroute, shut down, and then we can show these to all of our nontechnical users to understand what is the plan. So you can show it exactly to the neighbors that, if they're worried, if they wanna know exactly what's happening. So this video is very straightforward. Everyone can understand it, and, we have tons of information overlaid in there, with existing conditions, what we're gonna do with the hydro banks. We can show it to you if you're doing some trenching, placing them in there, and then what is the route is going, showing the camera, and sharing these links with, basically, everyone who is interested. And then every time we're sharing this video with someone new, we get some more feedbacks that, hey. You cannot do this because of that or this need to be moved because of this reason. So that's really valuable for us that, we can provide these drawings not just drawing, provide this, 40 logistic to anyone and get more feedback and refine it and refine it and basically build the construction before it start build this excavation before it start once virtually so we could capture all the errors, capture all the issues once. And then when we are in the field, we avoid any surprises. So that was showing the all the underground services, then we backfill it, then we backfill all the trenches that we have and remove all of those temporary power poles. So that was the, planning done in cmBuilder, with help of the information we got with DroneDeploy. Ground, DroneDeploy air, brought them all into, one platform in cmBuilder and, running the four d logistics plan. So a couple of, key takeaways, from this exercise that we did at the Burnaby Hospital for just this phase was, the first one is my favorite, stacking up technology for smarter planning. Yes. Grant also mentioned, now with the increase of interoperability between different software, it's easier that you take your Revit model into cmBuilder, your drone background or your drone layout or mesh into cmBuilder, or just, software talking to each other. So it's easier that you can use the multiple outcome from different softwares into one software and then exponentially increase the value of your planning. And then the second one, as we just touched, that, we saw that we can see future that's what's going on with five years from now to the existing condition for smart planning and see future with existing condition. That's just really valuable for increasing visibility improves the decision making. That was the one of our goal that every time, we show it to superintendents or one of the other stakeholders, we get some comments and we can adjust our plan. And then all of those let you avoid any surprises in the field. So that help us to not, not consider something that is gonna happen. So, everything that's in there in terms of, existing condition with the neighbors or pipes, everything that's, we take into consideration for this planning. And then last but not least, the communication. So improve the communication and then sharing it with the broader team in terms of, whatever happens interior, what's going on in the air, and then finally, the four d logistic planning. So now we can share it with the wider group, technical or nontechnical. The plans are easy to understand. And then, again, all of those, increase our increase the value of what we are producing to be closer more to the field than what's gonna happen in reality. So that was my last slide. Thank you. Yeah. I hope I'm some time. Yeah. No. You're great, Amir. I love it. I'm gonna jump over and share my slides real quick as we transition to Jody. And I think what's, what's fascinating about what you're alluding to is just how, communication without context is super confusing. And, I think I love what you're saying about just the ability to bring in more context with different tools and different platforms that really just helps drive better clarity and better communication with your team. A lot of C's there, right? But yeah, it's awesome to see, a lot of how you guys are using both tools from the air to get the kind of holistic perspective and obviously from the ground of just, hey, as if you were walking on the site and maybe you didn't do a site visit, you can go and kind of virtually put yourself there. So great stuff. Appreciate, that, Amir. And we're gonna transition over here to, miss Jody as well. So thanks for that. And, Jody, I'll have you share your screen and, keep keep the momentum going. Alright. Bear with me here. And while she's pulling that up, some great questions over in the Q and A. So, keep dropping those in there. We'll get to those, kind of towards the end and, some fun fun kudos. Love the shout outs to some of the presenters here as well. So, appreciate you doing that. Alright, Jody. We can see it's green. Yep. The floor is yours. Alright. Awesome. Alright. So sorry about all the technical, feedback y'all heard earlier. It was probably me. So, hopefully, we got that squared away. I'm Jody Hanchey. I'm a senior VDC manager at CAS Construction, and our company is a privately held general contractor. We're primarily a construction management at risk company. And we're mostly based in South Florida, but we do have projects that, lean into Central Florida. If you haven't done work in Florida, we kinda break it up into three areas. You have Northern Florida, Central Florida, and Southern Florida. So, it does vary by by region. So, anyway, that's just a little bit about our company. One of the things that I wanted to just hit on real quickly is the type of markets that we're in. We are mostly in multifamily condominium, hospitality, high rise, you could say low rise garden style, builder. We also work in other, markets, but these are kind of our bread and butter, and we're usually working on ground up projects. I think, maybe I've touched one renovation in the last, like, six years. So there's a lot of building going on down in South Florida, and so that means we're in very high traffic areas, areas that, have zero lot line, areas that are highly congested. We have, trainings, railroads. There's lots of stuff that you need to take into account when it comes to your preplanning and all your preconstruction. So I think that's just kind of important to note. From a high level, really, what I'm gonna talk to you guys about is kind of our approach. I've got a case study that I also wanna show, but I have some different examples. So I'm gonna give you a little variety, not so much focused on one specific project, but kind of how we, utilize DroneDeploy and cmBuilder collectively to support all of our preconstruction, efforts, but also our construction efforts, obviously. We could save that conversation for obviously another, like, two or three more more, webinars here, Grant and Javier. So the, the the approach that we that we take is is kind of phased into three different buckets. You've got your pursuit bucket, some may group in your preconstruction within that. But then you for us, we kinda break it out. So we've got our preconstruction bucket and then our construction bucket. So I'm gonna focus in on the pursuit side for a minute because I think it's really important when you, are a BDC person and you have a manager, they're getting all these requests coming in. Right? And for us, we wanted to streamline that process, so we developed an in house kind of logistics form and a drone request form because, it's just become kind of our standard. And so we wanna be sure that we properly, you know, coordinate these items with our pre con team, with our project teams. And so we asked for some basic information, like, where is your project located? Because, you know, we need to look up to see if there are certain FAA restrictions, and those types of things. And then what are your deliverable dates? Right? Is this for, a book? Is this for a proposal that we're gonna be, doing virtually? Like, what are the what are the criteria? Right? So it gives us a real high level view of what it is that we're going to be working on. From there, we're hoping that we have somewhat of a two d, format to kinda follow to get us started, but that's not always needed. Right? The beauty about, cmBuilder is that you can actually build those models from scratch while you're having a quick meeting with a superintendent or a project manager. So it's really easy for you to, you know, focus in on why I need a two d, you know, overlay or something to get going. We say we don't always need that. We can get going, from day one. So once we kinda have talked through, at least I think on a front end with our team about what it is we're looking to to do is then when we really start to go in and figure out what do our maps look like, what areas are we focusing in on, are there existing buildings that are gonna remain that we need to ensure some type of, you know, space between when it comes to all of our logistics, and any of the design aspects. So on this particular project, we had a building that's in the kind of far right corner here closest to the ocean, and it was going to remain. So we kinda had to build our logistics plan around that building, but, otherwise, this one is kind of a one off where it was on 15 acres of land, and so we're able to, you know, kind of use up that whole space, which was nice. But once you fly it, then we're looking to get design models from our design partners. Sometimes you may not get that, and so you may have to consider, okay, we need to base model this from scratch. But, ultimately, we're looking to get as much from the design side as we possibly can. And then we're taking all that information, and we're combining that into cmBuilder. We're looking to show phasing, our logistics, and just really merging those two things to to really convey that we've thought out our prepelling. So I just kinda wanted to hit on that real quick here, and these are some examples. So in the past, right, like, before DroneDeploy, we had Google Earth. And then before Google Earth, we really had a civil maybe a civil drawing. Right? There wasn't much else to go off there. And so on the left, I thought it was funny because in this project, we were, like, had zero space, right, for lay down. We didn't have any room for anything. And we actually modeled all the surrounding area, from scratch because we didn't even have much from from Google Earth in this in this certain area of Sarasota. Fast forward to today, what's on your right hand side, which is it's really the new school way and now kind of the current standard. It's like, oh, we can just go out there and fly our sites and capture information, and really skip all those steps that we used to have to take to to comprise any type of logistical information. So in this particular example, one of the big selling points that I think helped us win this project is there's a part to the left of the proposed site. And so when we submitted this, the owner said that none of our competition, were showing that. And I've got a good, I think, side by side comparison of this later on in the presentation, but there wasn't always a park here. There was a big parking lot, and so people were using that for their logistics. So I think it's kinda funny. Like, when you get wins like that, I think the value there is is great. Kinda rolling into the preconstruction phase, you know, once you kinda get that project, then you really start to dive into the details a little more. Right? You're getting so much more involved with, you know, what is it that we need to be able to submit to get permits, to get certain authorizations. In this particular instance, you know, if if it was in the past, we would have gotten just this two d markup of of a crane radius and, you know, some some markings showing something, for the side of where they, you know, need certain things. But on the right hand side, the new school way of things, we took this and we actually submitted this to the city of Sarasota, got their buy in. We also produced a, FAA air rights, for the tower crane, not only to the FAA, but also to the neighbors next door. So the neighbors next door, this was a brand new building. It was a rich residence. This was not currently in Google Earth for for what it was, when we needed to show this. It was basically just getting out of the ground from what they had. And so when we flew it, we obviously captured the entire building. And one of the concerns is that they didn't want the tower crane obviously swinging over their building, and over their pool deck. So we definitely had to make sure that whatever we were submitting that we've put all that detail and all that thought, into our logistics planning. And not only that, I think there was a lot of restrictions on this particular project where we had to keep certain bypasses open for bicycles and pedestrians, and even the one in the middle of the site that's kind of orange has the, arrows going both directions. We actually had to keep the middle of our site open, for pedestrians. So that made it super challenging and which is why we had to submit this to to the city. Now some of the gains that I think that you really get out of certain integrations, right, is that you kinda have one, one location to go find information. Right? Your sole source of information, if you call it. For us, we are working directly within Procore most of the time, and so DroneDeploy and scene builder were obvious, solutions for us because they they talk to one another, and so their apps are integrated, which is really great for our preconstruction team. It's also great for our construction teams. So at the end of the day, if somebody needs to go view something, for a particular, you know, reason, they have the ability to be able to do that. On this project, we also were utilizing three sixty photos and, integrated this into our into our process in preconstruction because one of the things on this project, it started in 2020. And so this being a COVID project, it sat for a little while, and that gave us an opportunity to bring our subcontractors into this mock up. So the owner had done a mock up well before we were ever planning on building it because it's a Westin hotel. They have certain criteria and standards that you have to get signed off on, that meet their standards, and so this mock up got done before we even had contracts signed with, any of our trades. And so we were able to actually walk them through all of these actual mock ups. And then in addition, we have these three sixty photos now to where during construction, we can obviously go back and reference those. But I think it was really critical in our phases being able to take people through these. They could physically see what it is they're gonna be buying out and providing. And so for c and builder, I think one of the, big integrations here for us is just being able to merge those two and give this access to our superintendents and product managers. Right? They can actually get into these models and they can spin it in any way they want. They can look inside of the model and be able to see that, okay. Maybe that crane can't go there or maybe the hoist is in, you know, the wrong location. And so I think in that aspect, it it certainly is is invaluable to us. On this particular project, we did a four d, deliverable, but also two d deliverables during the proposal phase. So we, we basically did, you know, with with the four d, we were able to produce two d documents. And then something that, I, let me go back just one step here. So this is a three sixty photo and something that I had mentioned to to DroneDeploy and something I or not DroneDeploy, but cmBuilder and something that they're working on, is we wanted the ability to see what our view would look like from the actual site. This project's Downtown West Palm Beach. We're right across the Intercoastal, and then beyond that is Palm Beach, the little island that you see, and then beyond that's the Atlantic. So the, the request came in, and it wasn't just, hey. Can you give us a three d logistics plan? It was, can you give us a three d logistics plan that also includes the view? And so we're like, how are we gonna do that? Okay. So with the drone, we planned a three sixty photo, and I was able to basically to superimpose this in the in here through trial and error. The other component to this is with the drone, we determined that there was gonna be a brand new building that was going next door. So that's the massing that you see to the left of the site. That was not completely aware to all of us, maybe some people. Right? There's always silos when you when you work in construction sometimes. But, through conversations, it was like, oh, we were looking at the drone flight, and it looked like the site had been cleared. And and someone said, oh, yeah. There's a there's gonna be a tower going up there. So that became a big topic of conversation, and we didn't have a model for it. So we kinda had to just mock something up in there. But, really, it came down to, okay. What kind of crane are we gonna use? And, really started to to utilize that information to better plan for that project. And then the one case study that I really wanted to dive into from a preconstruction standpoint, so this project is located over in Clearwater, Florida. It's basically on the intercoastal side of things. It's a 10 story boutique hotel, at the current. It started off as an 11 story boutique hotel, and we received the RRP back in December of twenty twenty two. And this was the original kind of markup that I was given to kinda start putting together some information. So before we basically ever even got involved, right, we started with our process with, okay. What what do we need to capture here? And so one of the big things that that was noted to us is that where the large parking lot is to the left and then the, the grassy area to the north, that area was being transformed into a new amphitheater. And so we obviously made a plan to, get our drone maps configured and capture that area. And this was the example I mentioned earlier where the owner said, I I think you guys were the only ones that picked this up in your logistics plans. So I thought that was really cool and a testament to to the programs and and the services that we're offering to really drive home for a preconstruction effort. It's just little things like that that can really make a difference. So diving into this particular, project. So since we've been working on it since 2022, I want to say we've had about six iterations of a budget. And about, I would say, a year and a half ago, we were in about DD phase with this project. And the owner even went back out to the market, but again selected us, for this for this project even though we were awarded precon previously. The numbers just weren't working out for them. And so at the end of the day, we're we're still working with this client to get to to get to our number. But one of the things that I thought was just really telling is it's kind of one of those examples where which picture doesn't look like the other, and you start to see all the differences in between each design iteration. So one, it was really important that we, had somewhere to obviously make, like, a few deliveries to the north of the project. But the way the project in RFP and concept phase, it was very it was laid out very oddly, I think, when it came to the to the basement. And so it was supposed to be a two story basement. Fast forward to schematic phase, we were still at a two story basement, but now our crane is inside the basement footprint. We've changed a little bit of the outline of the entire basement footprint. And then fast forward to the pre GMP phase, we are finally able to take a little bit of space to the north where the, pump truck is located right now. And then the layout of the footprint still keeps changing a little bit at the corners, and the tower crane remained the same. But then jump to the g and p phase, and we shifted the tower crane, like, five feet. So we went through iteration of iteration with the design team, with the owner, and we're really trying to to utilize this information to make informed decisions. That includes also where the hoist is located. And one of the biggest issues I think that we ran into was, you know, that accessibility. And so in the concept RFP and schematic phase, we had the hoist on the the west side of the building. However, there was act you know, access issues with that. We weren't gonna be able to get over there. And so we then started looking at the north side of the building, which is what you see in the pre g and the, GMP phases. And so the pre GMP phase, unfortunately, was too far set back from the tower. And so we were gonna have to produce some type of platform or other means to obviously get those elevators to the facade. That was gonna be costly. So then, come come around and we say, okay. For the g and p phase, let's move it back to the West. But in this point, we're at the garage entrance, so we should be able to, to make that work. And so that's currently what has stuck. But I think the biggest thing here is, you know, we've been working with our teams to to develop this over time. And every every time that we've produced a budget, we've been updating our logistics plan, and our sequencing to really talk through, like, what those issues look like. So it went from a two story basement or two story basement with 11 story tower to now a single story basement, with 10 with a 10 level tower. You know? And and at the end of the day, we're still negotiating with the owner on that pricing. I think your preconcession phase, technically, we're we're somewhat still in it. Right? We're still budgeting, and we're really trying to get to to that g and p, that the owner has, you know, in their mind that they want to hit. So hopefully, we come to a conclusion they're here soon, and it's supposed to start in April. And I think just to summarize, for us is that, you know, we started using cmBuilder and DroneDeploy in 02/2022. Since then, we've had 55 projects each, which goes along pretty much with our standard services. Right? We want to fly every project. We want to do a logistics point in three d for every project. There's no reason why, you know, when a pursuit comes in, you know, even with the most basic information, right, that we can't utilize the information in the in the people that we have. We have five, I think, licensed FAA, and insured drone pilots in house. If we can't utilize them, then we obviously go through, other means. But for the most part, we're creating the maps. We're working through with our project teams to figure out what it is we need to fly, and these are kind of some of the numbers of our of our drone, our drone data, to to kind of attest to that. Right? Some of that obviously carries through into construction, so you could take out a small percentage there. But for the most part, a lot of this is being done on the very front end, and it helps us, I think invaluably from a standpoint of of, it supporting our our needs for our company and our clients. So that's all I have and appreciate everyone's time, and thank you. Man, Jody, great stuff. What's fascinating. I think even just, watching through some of those examples is how much, you guys break up the difference of pre con in a pursuit phase and then pre con, after, you've won the job. I think oftentimes we may, bucket those into the same camp and it doesn't, doesn't get enough recognition of just what it means to pursue a job. And then, Hey, you've won the job. Now, how can we use, some of these workflows and tools, after the job is one to refine that plan, like what you're kind of walking us through. So, tons of kudos, in the chat. Thank you for, just your comments, shout outs, and yeah, I appreciate it, Jody. Great, great stuff. And, really appreciate you walking us through that. So to round us out, Mr. Wilson, I'm going to turn it over to you here. And, again, great questions. Keep putting them over there in that chat, in q and a, area. So feel free to keep doing that. And, Wilson, I will let you, take the floor. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Jody. Thanks, Amir, for setting it up. So I'm Wilson Haworth. I'm the director of virtual design with Juneau Construction. A little bit about Juno. We're family owned general contractor headquartered out of Atlanta, Georgia. We're the largest female owned general contractor, so I know it's Women in Construction Week. So, you know, it's really amazing to work for amazing woman owned company. And so we're headquartered in Atlanta. We do work all over the Southeast. We do pretty much any state that touches Georgia, and we've got offices in Miami and Tampa with our Atlanta office being our biggest. You know, why Juno exists is to build the best in class people and places with an intention on having people first. You know, we believe construction is an industry of choice and that the best people in any industry can be built here at Juno. And when you have the best people, you can build the best best in class places. You know, we're passionate about what we do. We have an unwavering commitment to our promises made, but we always put people and family first, and we like to keep it fun. So the markets we serve are, you know, commercial, higher ed, and that was really, like, a big start of us was doing work on campus, for a lot of higher ed institutions all over the country. We've worked on 39 different college campuses, really all over the country. Do a lot of historical renovation and preservations. We're doing work on the National Center for Civil and Human Rights right now, expansion and renovation in Atlanta, Georgia, and we're doing renovations on Clemson's campus in South Carolina. Within our our largest market sectors being the multifamily and student housing market sector, we're the second largest, student housing builder in the country. And that really being student housing builders has really shaped who we are because it's a really schedule driven market, and it's what has allowed us to be so innovative in what we do. So, you know, a couple big milestones from us is, you know, we're 28 years old now as a organization. We've been in the higher ed space now for twenty three years. We've we've been operating with offices in in Florida and South Florida now for fourteen years. Our largest project in 2015 was the Braves, the battery at the Braves Stadium. So when the Braves moved, so our office is right across from the Braves Stadium. And since then, you know, we've we've more than doubled that that project size with single contracts coming in over $200,000,000, and being able to open up offices. I wanna focus on just a quick little case study of kinda start to finish of when we even found out about a project to where it's at now and how we've used DroneDeploy and cmBuilder in the the planning phase of those projects. So this is, you know, it's a new market for us, so it was really important to have good reality capture tools out there. But our One Park Sarasota project is a, you know, ultra luxury condo project in Sarasota right on the right on the beach with a repeat client of ours, PMG, and a new design firm with, Hoyt Architecture. So, you know, a little bit about the project, 19 story building. So jumping into what we get with the project. So this panel is, you know, was taken in July 2024. So first time we hear about a project, we go out there and we fly the drone, and we're doing a couple different missions with the drone out there. We're doing some three sixty panos. We're doing a map plan, a quick little video plan. Knowing that, you know, the biggest thing in preconstruction for us is proper planning prevents poor performance. We've gotta move fast. We've gotta make decisions. We've gotta make informed decisions about what's out there. So you go into Google Earth. You go onto the street view on Google Earth. That might be two, three years old. It might be outdated. There's things like buildings for example, like, this building doesn't show up on Google, but it's right next to our site. These are things that are important for us to capture and understand. Really, the only way to do that is to go take a picture of it yourself and love the three sixty panel operations we have because you go out there with the intention of documenting just your site. When you do a three sixty, you're gonna capture so much more than what you were initially planning for. And the name of the game here is getting this information and being able to use it in as many different possibilities as we can and getting the information in the hands of as many people as we can. So this allows us to just very quickly get people into the site, seeing everything around it. Because what's important to me might not be what's important to somebody else. So we try to, you know, democratize that information and give it to as many different people as possible. And I can see the evolutions of what it is and how quick things change over time with it just from that kinda same vantage point. So once we started to do it, you know, we started figuring out, okay. We got that three sixty panel. We're diving in, and we're looking at what are the critical things for us because we've gotta pinpoint where our cost drivers are gonna be in preconstruction. I think there's some famous tech folks out there who who mentioned you gotta move fast and break stuff. In preconstruction, you gotta move fast and not have any scope gaps or not have any big budget stuff, but we are moving fast. When we're we're finding about out about projects, when we're breaking ground, it is a quick turnaround. Oftentimes, we're building projects with 85%, sets of plans. So our our buildings aren't even fully designed. So we can't even wait for a full design before we're starting to make these decisions, and we gotta be able to make decisions that are affecting budget, that are affecting schedule, that are affecting sequencing. So one of the things we had on this project was our crane approach. We went through, like, four or five different iterations of where our cranes are gonna be, how many cranes we had. And when we finally started to hone that in, we're able to uncover things like we need to be considerate of the neighboring building. Well, I I don't know how tall this building is. I can do a three d map of it. I can draw a line over it, and forgive the graphics card. For whatever reason, it's, coming on tile. I think this is my computer. But moving fast, we're we're able to find where where in this building we are, what the height is, just using a quick that same flight that gave us that three sixty pano to start understanding what the site was, gave us all the information about it, to hone it in. So that really led to what our crane approach was gonna be, where our cranes could be then located. We're then able to bring in our models to start to direct the design. You know, our cranes based off of the relationship of the surrounding building, the same three d models, the same three d model that we're using in that planning phase from the drone. And we're then making changes to the foundation. We're making changes to the blockouts and openings and getting all that in before and incorporate it into design so that when we're giving this to our trade partners to price, they're including everything, including all of our logistical openings and block outs and everything like that, that we need for the project. I think one of the coolest things that cmBuilder allows us to do is really to democratize that information. What I'm about to show everybody is stuff that we didn't build in VDC. This was our superintendent on the project who was building this out. It's a, you know, simple tool. It'll has a great resource library of actual construction resources that lets us plan properly and engage multiple people because there's nobody better than the expert. The person who's been building their whole life is the one who you wanna have being able to do this, and we're just taking and allowing him to build in the virtual environment to better enhance the communication we have with everybody. And when we can do that, there's not a delay of information that when I started doing four d models and started doing three d cell logistics plans, it was we would get a great thought and we'd get a great plan and we'd uncover a great problem, but we'd already submitted the budget. By democratizing the information and the quick equipping our teams with the data they need, they're able to make those decisions themselves in real time when it matters to the current effort they're doing. So clicking through it, I mean, just simple grading, the various soil mixing walls, pile walls, the auger cast piles. So he's doing this when we're doing the auger cast piles. He had to sit there for three months and watch, hundred foot concrete columns go into the ground. Not a very exciting thing. So he's able to actually build his building and look through what his challenges are, look through his MOT, see where he needs to adjust the fencing on the sidewalk, where our delivery gates are, and how people are gonna interact with the site. There's two things that are important on-site logistics plans. It's one, how your site operates, how material comes in and out, what's efficient there. But for us, and really this comes from our ethos as being student housing builders, it's how does the public interact with our site? How are we keeping people safe? How do we disrupt the behavior of people who use Quay Commons and Dawfee Place as their way to walk their golden doodles and their their kids in strollers down this? What are we doing to keep them safe so that this truck who's gotta make a sharp right turn doesn't run over somebody? So we can make those decisions. We can get those MOTU plans in, and we can see how we do that without affecting the flow of the job site. And then use this to inform our schedule discussions and how we want those crane sequence, where we want them to come in, what are our flow of our table's gonna be. So all of this was done. And by having the person who's building this model also be the person who's building the schedule, it really informed our schedule decisions. So it lets us make decisions quickly, but more importantly, it lets us make decisions accurately, and it lets us capture the implications of those decisions. Kinda another unique case study we have, and this is a recent one, is just like any other part of construction, virtual design and construction, we have finite resources. We have human resources as well, and we have to decide what we're going to, you know, spend those finite resources on and really hone in onto where our, our problems are. So, you know, we're in this business to provide solutions to complex problems. And one of these problems we're seeing, and this kinda came through a cmBuilder situation, was our building this is in Clemson. This is in South Carolina. 10 acre site. Our building's taking up lot line to lot line on the 10 acre site. It's surrounded by two army corps of engineer, stream easements, and there's a a lake, Lake Kiwi right to the south of it. We threw this into cmBuilder. We had the model in there, and we realized we were right up against it. So what this was able to inform us was we need to go investigate the corner of this, and we were able to go do an RTK drone setup with ground control points. So we're able to get our engineering services team out there, lay out ground control points, do a high accuracy map, spend the time to get geolocated models, spend the time to really hone in our structural validation so that we could see and prove that the Army Corps of Engineers Creek has eroded into our property. And even where it's currently at is undermining our foundation. So allowed us to still preconstruction before we even have a contract, have us start to plan, have conversations with our site subcontractor, have conversations with the civil engineer about what we can do here and start coming up with solutions to a problem that, in most cases, we would have figured out by the time our concrete sub was out there excavating for this foundation. So, again, proper planning is protecting us in this, and this is the student housing one. So, there's no there's no sched it doesn't matter what happens. Rain, shine, creek erosion, foundation undermines. This project has to turn over in August of twenty twenty seven no matter what. So we had to capture this, come up with a solution, get the, get the budget situated, get that included in the budget, and keep moving forward. So it was kind of full circle. Right? We had DroneDeploy. We brought the information from DroneDeploy into cmBuilder. We got the models into cmBuilder, and then realized we needed to go do a really in-depth study of a specific spot, took it back into DroneDeploy, did a high accuracy workflow, identified the problem, and used that to inform having the decisions we needed to make, there. And then it lets us, you know, do more. It lets us QC. It lets us you know, we do things where we have our safety program involved where they're checking our three d models for, utilities to prevent utility strikes. So for us here at Juneau Construction, it's really getting information, making decisions quickly, and doing that where we can, equip our teams to, you know, be set up for success. Because like I mentioned earlier, for preconstruction, proper planning prevents poor performance. Yeah. Wilson, so many practical examples. I I love the chat over here of just yeah. A lot a lot of shout outs, a lot of, like, hey. This is very simple yet very practical. I think what I just appreciate about one, just again, let's, for the crowd still with us here, just think the presenters, some awesome examples. And just really, again, I think in pre construction what's fascinating is just more data helps you make better decisions. And it doesn't matter if that's model data, real world data. You know, visuals, I think was mentioned a handful of times in the chat as well from, from folks of just like, man, how, how helpful it is when you start to get people involved that may not deal with this on a day in day out basis of just what visuals you can help present to them. And yeah, this is, yeah, very, just very practical, very simple. I think ROIs and wins, that you guys share. So again, just let's shout them out. Let's give them a quick thank you, over in the chat. Appreciate, all the chatter over there as well. Thank you for chiming in. But yeah, what I wanted to do is just kind of wrap it up. I know we're, we're at the top of the hour and we wanted to leave some time here for, for questions as they popped in here. And if you got a bounce, feel free to, I just want to note, you three and, the panel that we hire, there was over 500 people that registered for this webinar. So like the need here is, is obviously very strong, and we feel pretty compelled to share these stories and get it out to a lot of folks. And so, yeah, I just appreciate your guys' time. And, and again, like being able to show all of these things of what the value is, providing your guys' pre con teams to win more work. I think, Jody Hanchey, something you mentioned is just like, yeah, it was brought up in the post, you know, interview of like, hey, no one else was showing this kind of, level of coordination. It's just just really neat to see. So, again, just to kinda summarize, you know, I hope a a big takeaway for many of you all is just how these tools, can really help each other, complement each other, obviously work within their respective workflows, to help you win, really more work and just be better, communicative with your jobs and your teams. And and Javier, yeah, I've I've obviously shared some takeaways. Any anything from your end of you you get to see a lot of these, you know, within the tool as well, but, yeah, just great presentations and, any any big takeaways that you're hearing? Nothing to add. I think it was fantastic. I love seeing practical, real world examples of of using technology to to solve real problems. Right? And I've been fortunate. I've I've gotten a chance to listen to Wilson and Amir and Jody Hanchey speak before this. I already knew you guys for good. But, but I'm sure for folks that haven't seen this before, it's pretty cool to see. And it just highlights a lot of the great work that's happening through our industry and and through the technology folks that are trying to really drive change in the construction industry. So it's awesome to watch. That's great. I'm gonna take a few questions I know from, from the chat and q and a. And and, Javier, if you see any over there, feel free to chime in here too. I know there was a question about just overlays. I'm I'm scrolling all the way back up to the top. But, yeah, overlays, if you didn't know, within the JournalPoint platform, you can bring in, DXFs, you can bring in PDFs, geo referenced information. Wilson was kind of alluding to some of that within his share. They're at the end of not just two d information of PDFs, but if you have three d DXFs or three d elements that you wanna bring into DroneDeploy. I love that example, Wilson. I've just gone back and doing some high accuracy workflows and bringing in a model, and it's like that that, answers the question right there of what where we're gonna have some challenges. So, yeah, I appreciate that. And Jody, I love how you were kind of walking through, just the differences between, you know, pursuit and then also the pre con after award side of it. I I wanted to ask you, like, do you see more engagement, from outside, stakeholders? One of the questions that we had in here is just, you know, how do you get more of that kind of buy in, from either the pursuit team and or the actual construction team? You know, once you've won the job, do you kinda see anything, different between those interactions or just, you know, obviously, you're probably iterating more after you've won the job to develop the plan. But, yeah, maybe just talk about just engaging kinda some users that may not be used to seeing this information, from maybe their careers of seeing this stuff. Yeah. So our take usually on the pursuit side, you've got some people who are gonna be on the project maybe involved, but, you know, by the time the project maybe starts, once you get to construction, like, you may not even have the same team members. Right? Your superintendent may have had to go fill another job. I mean, the way South Florida is, it's, it's kind of the wild it's the wild East. So I think the stakeholders who are getting more engagement are really when you start getting into the preconstruction side of things and start getting more into even construction. That's where we really start to get more buy in, more input, especially for our our PMs and our supers and even some of our trades. We're bringing them in and doing, you know, scope reviews, and we're saying, hey. You know, we're planning on doing it this way, you know, Shell guy. You tell us, you know, does this look like a good plan? Because we want your buy in. Right? At the end of the day, we we're looking to scope you out. We haven't awarded you anything yet, but maybe your plan has some, you know, financial benefit for us. Maybe it has some scheduled benefits. And so you really start to have those conversations in the preconstruction phase where, you know, obviously, you're not having that in the pursuit side of things. So there definitely is more more value to it once you get to that preconstruction phase and really start getting into construction. That's great. Amir, I wanna touch on something that you kinda showed of just the simplicity of a a ground walk. Right? You showed some stuff of, you know, capturing that on the inside with the renovation project and obviously outside for, for folks that may not have a, you know, Google street view outside of the street. Obviously, all of you guys mentioned, just, Hey, kind of baseline is Google earth and maybe some Google street view, but once you get behind that fence, it gets pretty tricky to, to not, have that value, but then be able to do what what's been kind of, some engagement you've seen in Amir of just the sim simple walks that you guys have done and how much that kind of helps bring more people into this fold for for better planning. So yes. For for preconstruction and, because, we just started this project. Even the location of the buildings and some of the rental area is not even just defined. With those walks, with those plans and overlay, we are just, moving a building around, moving the rentals around, and, give more context that, what's the current location is. And, they can walk and see see if they see in fences. They can see some stuff that you don't see in Google Earth or even from, a drone above, you can see it. But, with those contacts, they can make a better decision of, what's gonna be the building location looks like, what's gonna be access gonna look like, and how they connect it to the streets, to their back street behind to the lane, and, all of those connected together. So, again, giving more context to the people who wanna make a decision, that was the key. Now there's the walk, there's the drone, or some logistic planning. Yeah. That's great. I I think sometimes, you know, we've we've seen a lot of folks use these tools pretty creatively even in, like, pre bid walks. Right? You'll go out and do a walk, that maybe all the subcontractors or or the key parts of, folks that are, needing to put together, you know, pretty accurate bids go through those virtual walks, and they'll be able to kind of better plan or better prepare based on that information, as well. So, yeah, great stuff. Again, I really just wanna thank you three, and, and Javier and I are just here to get out of the way and show your guys' examples. It it's really fun. Again, we we're privileged to be able to hear a lot of these stories, but, yeah, we definitely wanna put them on on more of a stage to help more people kinda become aware. And, Javier, anything you wanna add? I'm gonna close this out here and kinda, turn the corner. But, yeah, anything you wanna add? Nothing to add. I it's inspiring to see the thing that you help, you know, with thing we're building and see folks like yourselves using the technology. Of course, when you show a project, I see, oh, there's the trench tool, or there's the resource for the sheet pile, or there's the crane swing. So, like, and I get insights on how you're using the technology so we can improve and make it better. Right? So it really is a a partnership. And, I'm just really inspired to see what you guys are doing. So thanks for allowing us to be a part of this. That's great. A lot of you asked is this gonna be, recorded and shared? Yes. We'll send that out as a part of, kind of registering for this event. So if you have other folks that weren't able to make it or just focus on your guys' pre con teams that may be interested in this, yeah, we'll we'll provide some links to that. I do wanna touch on this before we end and and drop us off, two really great opportunities to, stay connected with, both our teams and really other, folks like our panelists today. Javier, I know, you want to talk about just your, kind of site summit and really just what you've kind of seen over the last couple of years. I've been, very fortunate to come out and attend, maybe not, from the running pre conference standpoint and the activities, but, yeah, just your guys' event, which is super fun to hear more stories like what we're seeing today. For sure. So we're we haven't officially launched, but we're we're still kinda, lining up some speakers and stuff like that. But it's a couple days in the summer. Vancouver in the summer is a pretty, good value proposition if you wanna come out and join us. We don't it's not a big conference. I think we're capping at a 50 people. So, you know, kinda couple people per company. Great a great, community of folks, great presentations, opportunity to connect with our product team and and just, you know, meet the people that are building the product. And then we do try to have some fun. So, yeah, some some exercise and morning runs, some hikes, a site walk. So if you wanna pop in the chat there, if you're interested in, in in registering, and just kinda submitting your interest, like, to join, we'd love to to see you in the summer in in Vancouver. Love it. And then, a couple months later will be, our event, which is, really fun to obviously, Javier, you guys have been gracious to join us out there, for, gosh, probably a handful of years now. This will be, I think, year three that you'll be with us. But, yeah, Horizons is our kind of user event as well. That'll be, in the October, late October time frame. Sunny Southern California, great time. And, yeah, just another great chance to similar idea here from customers, network with folks with kind of meaningful value that you can drive back to your teams and, another great opportunity to, to be a part of it too. So, we'll be down in in the kind of Newport Beach area, which is just really fun. Had a great time last year, but I've hosted a ton of, partners and folks that, similar to this that just have a lot of good value in connecting into, RealityCapture data and, obviously, cmBuilder and their team, being a part of it as well. So, we'll put this in kind of the recap email, but just a a special little discount for for those of you all that tuned in with us today. Best pricing, best early bird opportunities to get involved. Again, just would love to have as many of you all come and join us. And I think the more that we get to do this in person, it gets to be even more fun. So virtual is always great and the kinda in betweens, but, yeah, I would just encourage you to come to one of these events or both of them if you can make it, for just connecting with more folks, as a part of, kind of this community. So really appreciate all of your time. I know we're a little bit over, but we wanna lose some time on the back end for q and a. Let's just, again, give it up for our present, presenters and panel, over in that chat. Thank you all and, connect with them on LinkedIn. I'm sure there's gonna be questions, or things that maybe, came up that they may not have hit to. And so just, yeah, I encourage you to go connect with them on on LinkedIn and, we just appreciate your time. So with that, we will see you on the next RealityCapture Live and appreciate, all of you tuning in. So take care and we'll see you next time. Thanks everyone. Oh, there. I was gonna, bring Jody back.